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If any questions or issues posted on old archives arrive, do not post on archived talk pages, simply reraise the questions, and refer to the archived material if you wish. --Malake256 {Talk | Contribs} 00:43, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Galleries

I really used to like the gallery's look, but it's been buggin me lately, so I've been messing with it a bit, I only came up with two designs I sorta like. The main difference between the two is the roundedness. Of course if you guys really like the current gallery look, please speak up. Otherwise I think I'll change it to numero uno. The second is not round and has a thicker border on the bottom side (though this can be easily removed and added to the first. The third is, of course, the norm, wast of file space when I could've just made an actual gallery.. but oh well :] --Malake256 {Talk | Contribs} 00:43, 12 February 2012 (UTC)

Choice 1 looks awesome. Roundiness fits in with our roundification of many things on the wiki. MKMetroid mf Sprite.gif 00:32, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
I believe that file one is the most aesthetically pleasing of the three. As long as there's not a whole lot of mental headache or any serious drawbacks to that method, I support it. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 00:56, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Coding wise or anything like that? There are no drawbacks or difficulties to any of the methods. It's all simply a matter of visual preference, I'm simply asking to see which people like best, or if people like the current design. --Malake256 {Talk | Contribs} 07:28, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
As you may have noticed, I changed galleries to that 1 choice, this is simply to make it more noticeable to people that it is changing ;) and to match up with the new gallery template :D I'll change it back if it's what people want --Malake256 {Talk | Contribs} 08:44, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
Looks awesome, and since it's apparently just in the MediaWiki files, I see no drawbacks. I support wholeheartedly. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 21:49, 13 February 2012 (UTC)
1: File:Galleries 1.png
2: File:Galleries 2.png
3: File:Galleries 3.png

New Skin Issues

I see we've updated to a new skin! I thought I'd start this area for reporting issues (I'm sure many will crop up throughout this transition process). Here are a couple I've found, feel free to add more! Embyr 75  --Talk-- 06:15, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Outdated Logo (Resolved)

I'm pretty sure we had another logo to replace our old one. Has this logo been rejected or is this a mere oversight? Embyr 75  --Talk-- 06:15, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

As far as I can tell, the new logo is sitting right above the editing box as I type. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 20:56, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Hmm. That's a little troublesome. I wonder what that's all about; I still see the old logo. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 23:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Purge your local cache, should fix it. -- Prod 03:03, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
Thanks, that did it. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 07:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)

Galleries (Resolved)

Our galleries don't function properly anymore, as far as appearance is concerned. Is there a way to fix this? Embyr 75  --Talk-- 06:15, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

Guessing this is a fix that needs to be taken care of in MediaWiki, as the galleries were changed using that. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 20:56, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Undoubtedly. I'll try to get in touch with Prod. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 23:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Probably stuff from MediaWiki:Power.css needs to be copied to MediaWiki:Quantumleap.css. -- Prod 03:03, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
I have no experience with MediaWiki stuff... I'm a little wary of breaking things. Care to take a whack at it? Embyr 75  --Talk-- 07:16, 24 April 2012 (UTC)
How's that? -- Prod 00:09, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Certainly an improvement. Thanks for your help! Embyr 75  --Talk-- 00:27, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Templates, etc

Templates and other things around the wiki (such as the wiki markup box during editing) are still using the old MW background color. Also, previously attractive templates (Template:Scan comes to mind) look sort of funny now. Specifically, the "hide" button is squished against the description, instead of on the far right end, and it looks cluttered. We might need to overhaul our templates. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 06:15, 23 April 2012 (UTC)

I'm not sure about this one. Probably at least part of it can or needs to be taken care of in MediaWiki, but the basic templates we use for all the background colors will need to be changed as well. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 20:56, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
Right, Template:Mw color, Template:Mw color light, and Template:Mw color dark need to be changed to match the new look for sure. Not sure what to do about the rest of the aesthetics. I would like our templates to be more uniform, though, in size and such, so maybe this is an opportunity. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 23:25, 23 April 2012 (UTC)
One thing that should hopefully come out of this: Template:Nav is not the same width as the widths we've had on navs that use Template:Tab. On pages with both kinds of templates, this is a pretty jarring difference. If there was a way to enforce the same width on non-tabbed navs as well, that'd be optimal. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 01:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Yeah, I noticed the same thing. I'm not really good with templates, though if I stared at it long enough I could probably figure it out. My original plan was to revamp all the Nav templates to be Tab'd, but I'd also like to set the Tab template to have a default width. That, I'm not sure how to do. If you want to take a whack at it, feel free. Any ghastly mistakes on our part can always be reverted ;) Embyr 75  --Talk-- 16:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC)
Update: The color templates have been adjusted but Template:Nav still isn't working and Template:Tab still doesn't have a default width. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 22:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
What do you mean, default width? - J (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
As it stands currently, our Tab template either automatically adjusts its width based on content, or you can manually enter a width when using it in a navigation template. We're using 565px on a lot of our navigation templates right now for uniformity. It'd be nice if that was by default, and easily rectified if we change our minds on what that width should be. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 01:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

New messages box

I believe that the box is currently the MediaWiki default colors for background and text rather than the colors we had that blended well with our skin. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 01:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

...Could someone edit my talk page so I can see this? (Assuming it's that box you're talking about...) - J (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
I did. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 01:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

External Links

External links are showing up the default blue color instead of the green color they were on the power skin. Probably just one color in the MediaWiki files needs to be changed is all. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 16:43, 28 April 2012 (UTC)

You want interwiki and external links to be the same colour as internal links, with the same hover and visited colours too? - J (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
I think that's how we had it before, yeah. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 01:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

Revision Diffs

The background colors for the non-edited text on revision diffs make it very difficult to read the non-changed text. Again, this is probably just one thing that needs to be fixed in MediaWiki. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 23:43, 6 May 2012 (UTC)

I noticed this as well. It's quite hard on the eyes. I'd love to see this fixed soon. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 00:41, 7 May 2012 (UTC)

Bullet Points

Our bullet points, aka these things,

  • are a plain white dot right now.
  • They used to be the purple and green Metroid Wiki image. I'd like to see it back that way again, or updated to something else. The plain white doesn't look right anymore. =P Boy are we spoiled or what? Embyr 75  --Talk-- 22:58, 10 May 2012 (UTC)

    Do you have an image you want to use/know where the one used before is? I'm not sure what skin you saw it with, but the 'power' skin currently has a grey image, which doesn't sound like what you're remembering. - J (talk) 20:44, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
    I'm not sure if this is the same one, but file:2D logo.png would work just fine. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 01:02, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

    All the fixes

    To fix everything (including some other stuff not mentioned here), put the following at the bottom of mediawiki:quantumleap.css:

    /* collapsible boxes */
    .NavHead {position: relative;}
    .NavToggle {
        font-size: .8em;
        font-weight: normal;
        position: absolute;
        right: 6px;
        top: 0;
    }
    /* category bar, new message box , preformatted text, new article box */
    div.catlinks, div.usermessage, body pre, body div.noarticletext {
        background-color: #3C0252;
        border: 2px solid #6E3C80;
        color: inherit;
    }
    div.catlinks, div.usermessage {
        border-radius: 15px;
        -moz-border-radius: 15px;
        -webkit-border-radius: 15px;
        -khtml-border-radius: 15px;
        -icab-border-radius: 15px;
        -o-border-radius: 15px;
    }
    /* sidebar top padding */
    #column-one {padding-top: 5px;}
    /* diffs ('body's are to increase priority over main.css) */
    body table.diff, body td.diff-otitle, body td.diff-ntitle {background: none;}
    body td.diff-deletedline {background-color: #738;}
    body td.diff-addedline {background-color: #54a;}
    body td.diff-context {background-color: #3c0252;}
    .diffchange {color: #93D435}
    /* external links */
    a.extiw, a.external {color: #6FA028;}
    a.extiw:visited, a.external:visited {color: #547A1F;}
    a.extiw:active, a.external:active, a.extiw:hover, a.external:hover {color: #93D435;}
    /* bullet image */
    body ul {list-style-image: url("http://cdn.wikimg.net/metroidwiki/images/7/7a/Bullet.png");}
    /* template:icon */
    #pageicon {top: 1.5em !important;}

    Some notes:

    • I kind of fail at colours, so if the diff colours don't look right, tell me.
    • I haven't used the proper templates and categories for file:bullet.png because I don't know what they are...
    • I wasn't sure if I got the bullet point size right - to change it, just scale file:2D logo.png and upload over bullet.png.
    • Should I fix up the preferences page too?

    - J (talk) 10:12, 12 May 2012 (UTC)

    Wow, fantastic!!! Thank you!!!! I GROVEL IN AWE OF YOUR MAGNANIMOUSNESS! =D As for the preferences page, I guess it would be nice if it matched the rest of the site, but I don't think it's urgent. Hyperlinks to other sites still come up in blue, though. O.o Embyr 75  --Talk-- 05:40, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
    Ah, apparently I didn't test that properly. You need to replace the three lines under /* external links */ with the following:
    #bodyContent a.extiw, #bodyContent a.external {color: #6FA028;}
    #bodyContent a.extiw:visited, #bodyContent a.external:visited {color: #547A1F;}
    #bodyContent a.extiw:active, #bodyContent a.external:active, #bodyContent a.extiw:hover, #bodyContent a.external:hover {color: #93D435;}
    - J (talk) 08:43, 13 May 2012 (UTC)
    That did it. Thanks! Embyr 75  --Talk-- 15:35, 13 May 2012 (UTC)

    Checkuser

    A recent MediaWiki update created a "Checkuser" user rights group on its own (I can't really speak for sure whether this is absolutely true all over, but it was definitely an accident over on the Super Mario Wiki) that only has "checkuser" and "checkuser-log" and nothing else. I don't know if this was intentional or not, but it's probably not a very difficult fix. Bop1996 (Talk | Unfinished projects) 01:52, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

    I enabled the extension here. Until we need it, nobody has the role, but figured we might need it in the future. -- Prod 01:43, 26 April 2012 (UTC)

    Great work everyone

    Hey, it's been a while since I've visited, but I have to say, the wiki has come a long way. The new layout is excellent, and the overall improvement in quality, length and number of articles over the last year is superb. So, just wanted to applaud all of the staff for what you're doing for the wiki. Having founded the wiki I'm really proud to see what your hard efforts have turned MW in to, so you should all be proud of yourselves for the time and effort you've put into the place. Congrats everyone - staff and contributors alike, and all the best going foward. :) -Melchizedek  talk 06:04, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

    Thanks Mel! This has been a really fun project, I'm glad you approve of the way things are turning out. :) Embyr 75  --Talk-- 16:56, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

    The 1.19 Update

    I'm not sure why, but it's causing everything to float left. Infoboxes, our Welcome template, even the header as I'm editing that reads:

    "Editing Metroid Wiki:Discussion
    Center (new section)"

    I'm good with words, not code. Help! Embyr 75  --Talk-- 19:03, 9 May 2012 (UTC)

    Heading was a css issue, which was probably there before, but fixed now. The alignment with infoboxes/other stuff is due to 'align=***' no longer working, since it's not valid XHTML 4.01 (or something like that...). The solution is to switch things to "float: right" in the css for right aligned boxes. If something needs to be centered, use <center> tags. -- Prod (talk) 05:29, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
    Argh, I see. So we'll have to fix them all manually. I was hoping there'd be some overarching single edit to fix it. Oh well. Thanks so much!!! Embyr 75  --Talk-- 17:24, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
    Infoboxes fixed. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 22:31, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
    Hmmm, it should have been an easy one line fix... if any of those templates used the infobox class for their layout, instead of a bunch of inline css. If you want I can set that up on one of the templates as a demo. -- Prod (talk) 02:39, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
    That sounds reasonable enough, but I'm not really the one to ask. Malake and Metroidking had a handle on all that stuff. I don't know if there was some reason they weren't using it, or if it was just an overlooked feature. If the latter, then I'd like to see all of them converted, if for no other reason than for situations like these. Unfortunately, since they haven't been around much recently, it may be up to us to continue without their input. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 05:39, 11 May 2012 (UTC)

    Catching up

    Anyone care to catch me up on what I've missed? New skin looks awesome... so pretty and purpley. MKMetroid mf Sprite.gif 19:21, 15 May 2012 (UTC)

    HI!!!!! =D Well you haven't missed much. Well actually... I guess you have. O_o We got a new skin, got some NIWA help to fix issues, still don't have a new feature rotation, and Bop1996 was promoted. I think that covers the bases. Embyr 75  --Talk-- 00:24, 16 May 2012 (UTC)

    Navigation Templates

    Hello all! I recently set the width of Tabbed templates to 100% (span across the entire page) in the name of aesthetic experimentation. Could I get everyone's opinion on this new look? Did 565px look better or is this more uniform? If we decide to keep the 100% then I'll go ahead and change the heights as well. Thanks! Embyr 75  --Talk-- 15:34, 16 June 2012 (UTC)