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Hello, you have reached my talk page. I don't think I'll need this for much at the moment, but because I am trying to become more active, I figured I'd put something here. I am a Mario Wiki patroller, so if you have a problem with interwiki stuffs on MetroidWiki/MarioWiki, I can either deal with the problem or get in contact with someone better equipped to deal with the situation than I. As of October 15, 2011, I'm able to upload YT ripped images for the Prime Trilogy and Super Metroid, so I'll field image requests there.

A few rules before you post:

1. No spamming, flaming, or offensive language
2. Sign your comments
3. Create a new header for a new conversation (unless for some reason you are finishing a conversation I started with you)
4. For members of MarioWiki: I will respond to your messages on the wiki you messaged me on. Casual discussion can go either location, wiki-based discussion should go on the wiki the discussion is based on.

My current editing status is: My sysop duties on the Mario Wiki keep be fairly busy, but I'm still striving to contribute regularly.

Signing

Please make sure that you include the timestamp of your post when you sign, your last two posts were without one. MK 19:22, 20 June 2011 (UTC)

As a fellow gamer (and since we were discussing the ESRB on the MarioWiki), I thought you'd find this interesting.

Not something you hear about every day. Metroid4Ever 16:48, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

Oh yeah, heard about that this morning. It's best for parents to make those decisions, not the government. Now about Tingle, there should be a separate law concerning him... Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 18:41, 27 June 2011 (UTC)

I agree. There is no good reason for a short guy who looks in his forties to force a kid to shoot down his balloon in order to sell him maps. Metroid4Ever 12:23, 28 June 2011 (UTC)

It's even worse in the Wind Waker; he is integral to translating maps needed to finish the game. Of course he charges 398 rupees. I don't know if you have reached the first dungeon, but the good old dungeon map is in the dungeons, thank goodness. I'd really rather face some harder than normal enemy than Tingle... Too bad Nintendo loves him, they gave him a spin-off series <_< Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 01:16, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

398 rupees? Does he think Link is made of money or something? That's just ridiculous. I haven't been to the first dungeon yet (MM's on hold until I finish Master Quest (still in the Forest Temple, but I killed the two Stalfos and got the bow), but I'm glad I don't have to spend money to get the map. I really don't understand why Tingle has a series, but there's no way in Hyrule I'm going to play it. If Tingle was Miyamoto's idea, I'm never going to understand what goes through that guy's head (though without him, Samus wouldn't have the visor system used in the Prime games). Anyway, I'm sure the last thing you want to think about is Nintendo's official pedophile, so enjoy this tribute to OoT I found. Metroid4Ever 01:40, 29 June 2011 (UTC)

If only Tingle could be "accidentally" killed. MK 19:06, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

Maybe if Link "accidentally" shot him with a Light Arrow instead of his balloon... Light Arrows work well on evil kings of darkness, but even better on creepy stalkers like Tingle... Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 19:12, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

That's a waste of magic. Maybe Tingle could "accidentally" get eaten by a Like-Like or "accidentally" killed by Majora. Metroid4Ever 20:57, 30 June 2011 (UTC)

LOL!!! Thats halarious! How bout his Baloon gets "accidentaly"poped over death mountian crater?>:)--Arcwarioman 19:48, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

I promise that the next conversation I initiate will be productive....

Anyway, I thought this little story was worth sharing. I've recently been considering venturing into unknown territory. Shortly before falling asleep last night, I hummed the Song of Storms (stuck in my head along with the Song of Time for hours previously). I ended up having a most peculiar nightmare. In it, I received the subject of the link in the mail. The sky was black, it was pouring rain, lightning struck every five seconds, and for some reason, the howling wind sounded like the Echoes title theme (I was also the only person who seemed calm, odd considering that a tornado was heading my way). I didn't even get to open the box containing my gift; the dream ended as soon as I touched it. Suffice to say I was irritable when I woke up...sucks to be broke. Metroid4Ever 01:03, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Wow. I must say, you've bested me in being addicted to Nintendo in this facet; I never dreamed about Nintendo (although if I ever attempt hardcore speedruns low% on Prime 2, I might get there). Oddly enough, while OoT is the one that that sort of stuff always happens with, I hold by my opinion that Majora's Mask is really a better game (just was misunderstood for a while). I can't really call it underrated now, because so many people have said it that they finally give it the credit it deserves. I put the game up for now due to the total epicness of Chrono Trigger (not made by Nintendo, but it was exclusive to the SNES). Idk, I have such a hard time with so many great games I haven't played yet on my shelf or a Wii channel for... Listen to me ramble again :)... Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 01:17, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Lol, I think it's got less to do with Nintendo (though I am addicted) and more to do with a very strong desire for what would be the first instrument I've ever played/owned (excluding a plastic recorder seven or so years ago). I also think I'll share your opinion on MM (I'm on the Spirit Temple in OoT Master Quest, so I should pick MM up again soon). There are a ton of games I've been neglecting as well, notably ALttP and DKC. As for Chrono Trigger, never played it and might get it off VC eventually, though all I know about it is the hero's name is Chrono, and he fights a guy named Magus. Metroid4Ever 02:24, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Hmm, I took up the trumpet a few years ago, and my teacher is the single most finicky teacher in history. In spite of that (or is it because of that?), he manages to be witty and dry, thus making him a great teacher... Never thought of playing a flute or anything like that (one of my friends plays trombone, he tried to play a clarinet and failed). Twinrova will most likely dish out major pain to you (although I had little trouble dodging her attacks)... And then you've got Ganon's Castle, that'll be real fun. GameFAQs allows users to make gaming related top ten lists. One user has gone to 15 different forums and asked for votes on the best game of all time. Chrono Trigger has been on 12 of those lists, been in the top 5 eight or so times, and won top place two or three times, and has been nominated for every list. OoT has made 9 of those lists, has taken top spot once, been in the top five 6 times, and been nominated for all of them (some games just get nominated every single time, like FFVII, OoT, Chrono Trigger, etc.). That's just it's legacy, the actual game is no less fantastic. It's only got seven party members, but the Dual and Triple tech system makes any combination worth trying. Magus was the most epic boss I had ever fought, he knocked out two of my party members at one point. I'm actually right about to beat the game, or at least the final boss, but the game has 13 endings, so I have to go back and get the rest. Btw, Crono isn't really the best character in the game (or he wasn't until I got his ultimate weapon), but I keep him in there anyway just because. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 12:55, 8 July 2011 (UTC)

Cite Manga

I removed the external link to Template:Cite manga. I hadn't realized it earlier, but after a certain point, the pages on the manga and the url don't match, to it wouldn't be practical to keep it there. So pretty much, you can use multiple pages and speakers or whatever now, just do something like "19-20" in the page parameter. --Malake256 ^{{Talk | Contribs}} 22:15, 10 July 2011 (UTC)

Alright, although I really liked linking there, I'm kinda glad to have the actual referencing made easier. We'll probably have scans of the more important pages uploaded to here anyway, right? Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 00:29, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Right! We can upload those important ones lik X taking over Hornoad. But since this is Metroid Wiki, where images tend to be awesome, cropping them out turns out really well :] I liked the linking too, but it's not so practical it seems. We can't upload the whole manga though, we'd need permission from SnoopyCool, the guys who translated it. --Malake256 ^{{Talk | Contribs}} 02:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Lol, the cropped images have the Malake seal of awesomeness :)... If I upload an image, would you be able to crop it, because I don't have any editing tools (my laptop is really finicky, so I don't download any software anymore). Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 20:43, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Prime Trilogy Screenshots

I happened to notice on your user page that you said you were going to unlock the screenshot tool for Metroid Prime Trilogy. If you needed the friend credits, which MUST be sent from another wii, i could give them to you. You should be aware though, that tool sends them to the wii message board, and they cannot be currently uploaded in any known form, which is stupid. --Nintendbob 21:05, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

You can't put them on an SD card? I assumed that I'd be able to do at least that... I was planning on using the infinite friend credit glitch to get my credits, but I'll contact you if I need credits, thanks :) Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 21:09, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, Nintendo decided that no one is ever going to get screenshots of their games unless you want to buy some special adapter for your computer or use an emulator. --Nintendbob 21:30, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

I thought that you could put photos from the Photo Channel on an SD card... If you can put photos from an SD card on a Wii Console, you would theoretically be able to do it the other way around... I need to test it somehow, unless you tested it that way. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 22:10, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Unfortunately, the Photo Channel cannot write to a SD card. The wii cannot email the picture anywhere but another wii. I have searched for a long time , and there is no way to transfer the photos without taking a picture of your tv. It is such a stupid way for them to do it, and unless they update it somehow (unlikely) there is no solution. --Nintendbob 22:48, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

That means that unless someone here has the complicated software to put those images on a computer, any screenshots I take would be useless here... I can still take screenshots of momentous accomplishments, assuming I ever achieve anything, but I'd be limited to sending it to other Wiis. Oh well, I can upload pages of Manga or something... Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 23:02, 11 July 2011 (UTC)

Reply

Sounds like an interesting plan. If Trilogy was considered cheating, Nintendo wouldn't have made it. ;) Myself, I finally found 3DS eShop cards (I got two of them, so 40 dollars total), and I bought Donkey Kong (currently in World 2), Super Mario Land (currently in World 3), Link's Awakening DX (just finished the second dungeon) , and some DSiWare (a game based off of the House TV show (finished it), Cave Story (very addicting), a Castlevania clone called Soul of Darkness (finished it), and a platformer called Ten-Second Run (you have to get to the goal in each level within ten seconds)). Now I'm hoping for Metroid II (haven't played it, Fusion, or Hunters) or a Super Metroid remake. In other news, I go on the MarioWiki periodically, making edits where I see fit and voting on proposals I deem important, but the other day, following about a two-day period of absence, I log on and am alerted that I have new messages. Long story short, my edits are now autopatrolled. Dedication pays off, I suppose. Metroid4Ever 23:52, 20 July 2011 (UTC)

Unfair or not, it certainly is useful. I probably should pick up MM (it's been neglected for far too long, and I am now depressed because I finished OoT Master Quest...oh well, this cheered me up...I am such a nerd). I wasn't even aware Chrono Trigger was on the DS...it's probably cheaper just to get if off of the Wii VC (800 points, if memory serves, as it's an SNES game), but that in all likelihood is not going to happen until I finish Mario Party 2, Mario 64, DKC, Sonic the Hedgehog, Star Fox 64, Super Mario RPG, Super Mario World, and MM, of course (not necessarily in that order...on a side note, I also have World of Goo, but that's not going to get done anytime soon). Thanks. I've actually thought the same about you when it comes to editing strategies; I have no doubt that your future at the wiki will run a similar course. Milestones that others strive for are inconsequential to me in relation to my devotion to the wiki (and this one, where I also think you'll do well), as I'll do whatever I have to in order to better both regardless of rank, but I would not be surprised if you and I became sysops one day, but enough about that...I'm sure that our thinking is similar as well. :) The fact that I became autopatrolled while offline is why it was such a surprise to me. Going to one's talk page and being congratulated is quite shocking if one has no idea why. Metroid4Ever 04:30, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, you can never have too many dungeons, enemies, etc. I'll have to check Amazon. Speaking of barrel rolls, the infamous command is inexplicably absent from this video. In all honesty, I think anything we do edit-wise is preferable to that fiasco. If I'm not mistaken, his ban lifts this month. Hopefully, he's learned his lesson...of course, isolation from something to which one devotes much of one's time never really works as a rehabilitation technique. Metroid4Ever 17:01, 21 July 2011 (UTC)

"Creepily genderless"...that's rich, and the fiasco certainly was enlightening. Just thought you'd like to know that I've stolen the bow in Link's Awakening. Normally, you have to save up 980 Rupees for it and buy it in a shop (no way I'm doing that), but if you just grab it and distract the shopkeeper momentarily, you can walk out the door before he sees you. It's hilarious but painful, as I found out when I went back in. He yells at me for not paying and actually shocks me to death (I think he's a Sith Lord). The only downside is I have to go through the rest of the game known as "Thief." Oh well, free weapon! Metroid4Ever 04:24, 23 July 2011 (UTC)

Heh...Don't know if you've been on the MarioWiki recently, but apparently, KKR's not coming back (he admitted to creating a sockpuppet). What a shame.... On another note, how is it cheating if the game lets you do that? It's as if Miyamoto wanted Link to break the law. ;) Metroid4Ever 06:14, 24 July 2011 (UTC)

Good for you. I just finished Super Mario Land (gotta love Restore Points). Yokoi must have been obsessed with explosions, since every boss, including those you can take out with a switch, explode. Four worlds, three levels...it's short compared to other games, but it's worth a playthrough, since it's got its difficult points. I'll probably be starting up MM again in the next few days if I don't decide to replay one of the Primes. Just trying to take my mind off of the dwindling summer vacation any way I can. Depending on how lazy I am, I might not finish MM until Termina's in 3D (link probably won't work...site probably has issues, but there's a link to a petition...you should know for what by now). Metroid4Ever 21:00, 26 July 2011 (UTC)

This is somewhat Metroid-related

If you haven't had a chance to get a 3DS, now's a good time, and that's an understatement. Metroid4Ever 17:36, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

If I may interject, that is completely awesome. --Malake256 ^{{Talk | Contribs}} 17:43, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

It certainly is. Metroid4Ever 17:48, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Yeah, it really depends on how lazy I am, whether I feel like spending the money or not, etc. Btw, the only Metroid game for 3DS is Metroid II, right? This does make me much more likely to buy one, especially with some game releasing this winter (major <_<)... Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 19:24, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

No, it's Fusion. Metroid II has not been released, and it is unknown if and when it will (currently, there are no Metroid games on the 3DS) be released. You don't have time to be lazy. ;) Nintendo does not have plans at the moment to release those GBA games to the general public, and you have to go on the eShop before midnight on August 11th if you want them for free, same for the NES games (actually, you'll have to do that if you want the GBA games at all). Metroid4Ever 19:27, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Uh oh, I'd better think faster then... Ideally, I'd wait until a review on Kirby Wii, Skyward Sword, and a price on the Wii U... Don't have a budget for the next few months. Only a definite plan to buy Skyward Sword and a Wii U. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 19:47, 28 July 2011 (UTC)

Sacred Path

The page Sacred Path is titled Fortress Transport Access, and when I try to move that title to Sacred Path, it says that Sacred Path is the current name of the page. Also, there is already a page titled Fortress Transport Access. Any assistance? - Wookiee123

Errors like this occur when the server is updating recently edited content, as you saw, it will correct itself. MK 01:33, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

What he said. I had been working on a table for 15-20 minutes when you left the message, I couldn't tell what was going on after I was done. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 01:37, 24 September 2011 (UTC)

Ingsmasher Missile Launchers

I've been trying to blow up an Ingsmasher Missile Launcher however while I do it, it also destroys the Ingsmasher. The exploding launcher does cause damage damage but I believe that the only reason that the Ingsmashers are destroyed is because of residual damage caused by missed shots. If you have a file near them, would you mind trying to blow one up in Trilogy? It's much tougher to manually aim in the GCN version, especially when you have something trying to kill you. MK 19:25, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, I don't have an active save file currently, although I could probably get there fairly soon. I never attempted to do so either during any playthroughs as well. After I'm done with my current playthrough of Corruption, I'll start up Echoes and try and blow one up to see if I can manage it. Does it make any difference whether I try on a Dark Ingsmasher instead? It'd probably be easier to blow one up on Dark Ingsmashers, and I would have unlimited chances to fight the thing. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 19:36, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

The type doesn't matter, I've been trying it on the Dark Ingsmashers in mine. MK 19:50, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Cool, I'll let you know when I find out. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 19:56, 25 September 2011 (UTC)

Alright thanks. Now onto creating the actual article for the launchers. It'll be on a user subpage until such time that we're sure of what happens when they blow up (cause it's going to be a fairly small article, I'd prefer to have all the details on it before I mainspace it.) I'll keep testing it on my version too. MK 04:02, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

Got it. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 13:17, 26 September 2011 (UTC)

After more research I am pretty sure they cannot be destroyed. I've repeatedly hit a regular Ingsmasher's launcher with an uncharged Dark Beam however the Ingsmasher is always destroyed. The launchers always explode once the Ingsmashers are defeated further supporting this. MK 17:39, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

First off, that probably took skill ;). Now, that does seem to confirm that if the launcher is destroyed, the Ingsmasher goes with it, either because it can't survive without the launcher, or because the explosion really damages it that much. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 17:47, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Taco

You get a million NIWA points for finding the taco. --Malake256 ^{{Talk | Contribs}} 22:01, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Really? Cool! Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 22:02, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Haha just kiddin, i don't think im able to distribute Niwas unfortunately :/ But the taco was a good find, it's been an inside joke for idk.. since Metroid Wiki was still a tyke... --Malake256 ^{{Talk | Contribs}} 22:07, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

That's what I thought it was... It would've been funnier to hide a rickroll somewhere (make it horribly tiny, then hide it next to a link?). I have the habit of examining the coding of an article, not just the content ;) Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 22:10, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Great job on finding that one, we were wondering how long it would take someone to notice it (or at least remove it). MK 22:18, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

Thanks lol. Now if I run a search on that, I can become The Legendary Taco Hunter or something... Is there any other food hiding in the coding somewhere? Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 22:22, 27 September 2011 (UTC)

I checked and there are no other instances of "taco" in the main space. As for other food references, I doubt it. MK 00:24, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Well, if someone hides another one, I'll play along, let any new users find them. This whole thing really weirded me out I must say. Good fun. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 00:43, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Haha Metroid Wiki is sorta riddled with hidden things, good luck finding them... --Malake256 ^{{Talk | Contribs}} 04:12, 28 September 2011 (UTC)

Tense

Hey there!! Thanks for your recent edits, especially regarding consistency in refs. =P Your edits on the Keybearers' pages were fine, but I just wanted to point out that "is later recovered" is still future/present tense (as opposed to "was later recovered"). Changing those to "Samus later recovers" changes the voice, not the tense. =) —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 15:09, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

I hadn't thought of that... Actually though, the passive voice is less effective there anyways, so it probably needed to be changed... And about the ref consistency, that is my number 1 pet peeve right now, I get really obsessive about it whenever I see one not done properly, so I really don't mind that at all. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 18:01, 30 September 2011 (UTC)

Image editing

If you just want to crop out some stuff, it's not too complicated. Do you have an image editor such as Microsoft Paint on your computer? MK 21:53, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I have been using MS Paint as part of my convoluted method of ripping YT videos, but I haven't done anything other than copy a print screen to Paint, then save the image to a folder and upload it. If there's an easy tool to remove the black borders without compromising the borders of the actual image, I'd be happy to use it when uploading these images. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 22:13, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

OK I was wrong about it being complicated, I didn't know MS Paint lacked a cropping tool. If you do wish to crop with it, follow what it says in this video. If you're able to, I recommend you download GIMP. It can crop images in a simpler, faster way. MK 23:25, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

Hope you don't mind me butting in here. When I used MS Paint I just used the cut tool, selected the section I wanted, cut it, and then started a new image and pasted it in there. Oh. That's what the video shows. But the video is really taking it slow, it seriously isn't as complicated as the video makes it look lol. But yes, GIMP is far superior. :D —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 23:46, 2 December 2011 (UTC)

I ditched MS Paint after realizing how poorly it handles the large images, but with a little messing around, I figured out how to crop on Adobe Fireworks CS4, which I apparently already had, and I can get it down fairly easily now. But yeah, MS Paint makes everything harder. Anyway, thanks for the help both of you. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 00:03, 3 December 2011 (UTC)

Template replacements

Would you mind helping me swap out the scanned image, screenshot, logbook image, artwork, and sprite image templates in favor of template:source? I'm going to do several replacements a day, but all of the templates combined are on over a thousand files so it would take me a while to finish this if done solo. MK 19:46, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

I don't mind at all. I probably should finish the infobox/category/general maintenance I've been running on the Prime Trilogy creature articles first, but after that's done, I'll go and start helping swap out the templates. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 19:52, 4 January 2012 (UTC)

Images

Hey there Bop! Nice seeing you hard at work on the RC. ;)

One thing I wanted to bring up: You recently uploaded this image of the Transit Tunnel South and said it was "higher quality" than the image we had of it before. While that other image was taken from Metroid Recon's walkthrough section and was therefore deleted, the replacement image wasn't of higher quality, it was just larger. In fact, if you look at that image at full resolution, the quality of the image is quite mediocre, and having a larger image isn't always better. In fact, this image, while not adding anything quality wise, takes up a whole megabyte of space. Sure, 1 MB isn't a big deal, but reasonably, an image should only be uploaded as large as its resolution quality can handle. In the future, uploading an image at a size with sustainable resolution quality would probably be best. =) Thanks!!! —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 03:20, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Thank you for the advice; images are definitely not my forte, so I appreciate any help I can get on that. I have reuploaded the image at a smaller size and still retained the quality at full resolution, and it has significantly cut down on memory usage, so hopefully that's a good fix. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 22:15, 19 March 2012 (UTC)

Looks good! :) —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 02:07, 20 March 2012 (UTC)

Hey

Your welcome on the Picture on the Omega Ridley page.--Arcwarioman 19:41, 23 March 2012 (UTC)

Rollback

You've been promoted to rollback on account of your stellar work, congratulations! We look forward to more great contributions from you! —Embyr 75  ^--Talk-- 00:26, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

Thank you very much! I'm glad to have been helpful in contributing and hope I can be helpful with rollbacker rights. Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 01:41, 25 April 2012 (UTC)

I suppose my punishment for my inactivity is missing things like this. Congrats! Metroid4Ever 00:56, 17 May 2012 (UTC)

Well, at least it saved me the trouble of having to try to think of some sort of subtle plan on my own. ;) Thanks! Bop1996 _{(Talk | Unfinished projects)} 17:11, 17 May 2012 (UTC)