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The technology behind snowboard jackets has changed drastically in the close some years. It wasn't never-ending ago that if you wanted to linger steamed up up on the slopes you bought a heavy, puffy, down filled jacket. Some of the problems associated with those older fleshiness jackets are they were oppressive, not certainly hardened, and they looked weird. With the appearance of Gore-Tex snowboard jackets, these problems are all eliminated. A Gore-Tex snowboard jacket is faded, fixed, waterproof, breathable, and can befall in a fully assortment of colors and styles.  
 
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== I've got a question, ==
The old-school down filled snowboard jacket while morose was in addendum utter appreciated because it did a good project of keeping you warm. Anyhow, they were not known fit their durability which creates a covey of problems. The older down jackets were duplicitous down to tearing. Even-tempered the smallest tear eliminates the jacket's capacity capacity to collect up you warm. A calling in a down jacket intention be beaten feathers, relinquish moisture to make in and admit furor to escape. All three of these problems determined drastically fake upon how tepid you are on the mountain.  
 
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Why is this on the most viewed pages? {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 02:18, 23 November 2010 (UTC)
   
:Because It's been viewed 8,228 times :P {{User:TheSuperZeldaMan/sig}} 02:21, 6 December 2010 (UTC)
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Gore-Tex is not the absolute and just now option. There are other materials that are lightweight and waterproof and penchant put forward you the as a replacement for all that durability, warmth and breathability. The popularity of Gore-Tex also stems from its affordability. All these factors combined are what provide to a Gore-Tex snowboard jacket being so damned rated and so authoritatively recommended. Hold on to that as with any obtain, doing a surely due diligence cash-box to purchasing your snowboard jacket will-power locked up you headaches and transform in the large run.  
Is there some way to browse images that have already been uploaded? Like, for example, if I wanted a picture of a [[Hunter Metroid]], is there a way to tell if someone has already uploaded such a picture without knowing the specific file name? If this is somehow obvious and I am missing something, just let me know, but the Help only tells how to upload new images, not browse ones already there. If there are images that can be used, I'd rather use them than uploading brand new ones. --[[User:Nintendbob|Nintendbob]] 15:37, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
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:Go to the category to which a Hunter Metroid would fall under. Usually, such an image would already be added to the page, but occasionally people upload images before the page is created and an unused image just sits there. Head on over to [[Special:SpecialPages]] to find an array of lists that may be useful. More specifically, go [[Special:UncategorizedFiles|here]] to look at uncategorized files which you wouldn't find under any category. [[Special:UnusedFiles|There]] to go to files that are unused, that is, they don't appear on any page. And [[Special:Categories|there]] to view all categories. [[:Category:Enemies|The enemies category]] or [[:Category:Metroids|Metroids category]] would be where an image of a Hunter Metroid would be if it existed. Hope some of that helped! {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 17:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
::Thanks for taking the time to tell me all this, it really helps --[[User:Nintendbob|Nintendbob]] 18:29, 31 December 2010 (UTC)
 
== Justin BAILEY ==
 
So, Justin Bailey or JUSTIN BAILEY. Same with Bottle Ship. Both are referred to in game as ALL CAPS. But otherwise, they're simply known as lowercase. {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 06:27, 25 January 2011 (UTC)
 
== Happy First Birthday Metroid Wiki ==
 
We've officially been online for one year now, so let the celebrations begin. A huge thanks goes to all of our contributors, our staff and to NIWA for their support. Be sure to check out our [[Special:Statistics|statistics page]] for all the stats of what we've achieved in our first year. Here's to a great year and many more to come. Thanks again everyone. {{:User:Melchizedek/sig}} 22:05, 27 January 2011 (UTC)
 
==Hello there!==
 
I'm Fawful117, a newcomer to this wiki, but very good on the Mario wiki! I need to edit my userpage a bit... anyway, what's there to do on this wiki? I assume it's just like the Mario wiki, right?
 
[[User:Fawful117|Fawful117 Look who&#39;s come from the Mario Wiki! ME!!! ;) I HAVE CHORTLES! ]] 21:46, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 
:We have some different policies, but the basic premise is the same. As for what you can do, you can edit any particular areas that you are knowledgeable in or just make small corrections like spelling and grammar. {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 21:54, 20 April 2011 (UTC)
 
== New bureaucrats ==
 
After the move, our admin and bcrats got a bit rearranged.  I'd like to give one of our current sysops bcrat permissions as well, and would like the community's feedback.  We currently have the following sysops:
* {{user|Embyr 75}}
* {{user|Malake256}}
* {{user|Melchizedek}}
* {{user|Metroidking}}
* {{user|Nathanial Rumphol-Janc}}
* {{user|Neo}}
* {{user|TheSuperZeldaMan}}
What are everyone's thoughts on who should be our new bcrat? -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] 18:04, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
:In terms of who helps out and edits for the wiki, I feel that Metroidking does the most to help out and improve. --[[User:Nintendbob|Nintendbob]] 21:32, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
::Metroidking definitely for the win on this one, extremely active (unlike how I've been), and a highly valuable and necessary editor to keep Metroid Wiki going round. More thoughts from me are certainly to come, particularly since I'm just now getting back. {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 23:31, 2 June 2011 (UTC)
:::In my opinion, its Metroidking for many of the same reasons Malake256 posted.[[User:Transdimensionalflux|Transdimensionalflux]] 22:58, 3 June 2011 (UTC)
::::Metroidking devotes himself to this wiki. When in the position of nearly permanent hiatus, you're sure to think that "Well, Metroidking's there, he'll work things out." He primarily serves as the backbone of what keeps this wiki going, making sure that everything is precise and perfect to the smallest detail. Considering the small amount of helpers in this wiki, it's clear that Josh will always do the job, because he really cares about it. It doesn't matter if someone's been slacking for months when you have someone like Metroidking around. - {{User:TheSuperZeldaMan/sig}} 03:39, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
So it is written, so it is done :). -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] 07:21, 7 June 2011 (UTC)
 
== Search Bar ==
 
White on white on chrome. {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 22:41, 18 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:It's actually kind of annoying me too... Maybe it's a plot against chrome users... [[User Talk:Bop1996|Geekiness is an end, not a means -]] [[User:Bop1996|Bop1996]] 00:43, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 
::Yes, we're all trying to push people to use FireFox. {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 00:50, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
:::Diabolical fiends.... [[User:Metroid4Ever|Metroid4Ever]] 03:53, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
::::I feel the same way... {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 15:39, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
:::::Honestly, we thought we fixed this problem. Not really sure why it is occurring. {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 17:00, 30 June 2011 (UTC)
:Should be re-re-fixed. -- [[User:Prod|Prod]] 20:29, 1 July 2011 (UTC)
 
== Interwiki junk ==
 
This story may be long and overly detailed. While I was editing in MarioWiki, I happened to look at their article on Link, and even though he's not a Mario character, I fixed up inaccuracies referring to the Zelda series and went on my way. Logged in again last night, one user was fixing [[mariowiki:Samus Aran|MarioWiki's article on Samus]] for inaccuracy within the Metroid series, apparently because he noticed me doing it, and he was linking to Wikitroid for further info. Another user got in an edit war over whether to link here or Wikitroid, an admin stopped all the action and said that the MarioWiki admins would discuss this. I asked for a list of articles that were specifically not detailed enough to provide good info, and I got an explanation about the whole thing. Regardless of the MarioWiki admins decide, I agree that our articles on the pages that would provide basic background info on Samus are woefully poor; almost all, if not all are stubs, and most don't have complete write-ups for just the in-game sections. This seems to be impairing our ability to provide a source of information for people who are more interested in those topics. I think that I, personally, would like to focus on certain articles that would help provide background information on Samus so that we can be a better source to link to than Wikipedia or Wikitroid. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 12:29, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:Not overly detailed. We've known about the need to expand the more important articles that would be linked to from other NIWA wikis for a while. Unfortunately those said articles are also amongst the hardest to write. Take the Samus article for example, it has to cover every game in the series but also can't seem like a rephrasing of the content that will later be on [[Metroid (series)]]. Would you mind getting a list of the pages that MarioWiki is much more likely to link to? It will help us get a much better idea of which articles to prioritized with expansion. {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 20:13, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 
::Hmm, I see what happened on Mario Wiki. Yeah, unfortunately it's been a constant problem on Metroid Wiki, we have detailed information when it comes to less significant articles like [[Vaccine "Metroid"]] or [[Paralyzer]] but somehow leave the [[Samus Aran|most]] [[Chozo|important]] articles naked of info. The only real solution of course is to have better info on our pages. [http://www.mariowiki.com/index.php?title=Samus_Aran&diff=prev&oldid=1064495 This edit] and following edits show what articles we'd really, really need work on. {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 20:34, 19 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:::That particular edit war was the epicenter, as for other links out there, there is no set policy on how MarioWiki links to affiliates, apparently, according to one of the admins I asked regarding such a policy, there was a debate about it that ended with an unfinished template being added to a bunch of articles. I believe that most of the articles that seriously need work are in that edit, although almost anything Smash Bros. could possibly be linked here. I believe some trivia references out there link to here, since the Mario series doesn't take itself as seriously as the others... In particular, some WarioWare games link here due to them being based off Metroid stuffs. The edits from the edit history Malaka256 posted are the most important as far as links, as a lot of other wikis probably link there as well. The fact the Vaccine "Metroid" article is better than [[Samus Aran]] or [[Morph Ball]] is not much of an in-wiki problem so much as a problem where we aren't able to provide further reading for users of other wikis. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 12:29 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 
::::OK, would you mind doing some work on the Corruption section of the Samus article (references and such)? {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 19:14, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::I don't mind, I saw a bunch of stuff in there I wanted to fix anyway, I'll try and get to it later tonight, kinda busy right now... {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 19:32, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 
::::::Alright. {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 19:48, 20 June 2011 (UTC)
 
== Proposals ==
 
After seeing [[Trooper Pirate|this page]], I was just wondering if the proposal concerning it was neglected or if it has actually been dragging on for seven months. Is there a page that describes how proposals work here (other than the fact that someone proposes something, and people can support, oppose, and/or comment)? Just in case clarification is necessary, I'm wondering if this wiki has [[mariowiki:Proposals|anything like this]]. [[User:Metroid4Ever|<span style="font-family:vivaldi;color:white"><font size="5.5"><b>Metroid</b></font></span>]][[User talk:Metroid4Ever|<span style="font-family:vivaldi;color:white"><font size="5.5"><b>4Ever</b></font></span>]] 03:49, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:I believe that since the community is still getting off the ground, the system for resolving arguments is similar to the one Xzelion, Plumber, and Master Crash proposed at MarioWiki. I believe the TPPs are just waiting for someone with the time to get to them (that has happened a few times on MarioWiki as well). This may be better answered by an admin like MetroidKing or Malake, but since you're trying to find something here comparable to what the system is on MarioWiki, I figured I'd answer the MarioWiki related portions. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 11:47, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
::I like that idea, after we see what Malake thinks we might just implement something like it. {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 17:06, 22 July 2011 (UTC)
:::What we implementing? MW isn't very organized when it comes to technical details like that to be honest, there's no set number of oppositions or supports needed for anything to happen, usually stuff happens on a majority consensus. Whenever something comes up, we try to discuss it, but I guess Trooper Pirate didn't pick up enough interest. So it does seem to have been neglected. {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 01:31, 24 July 2011 (UTC)
::::I believe what the problem being brought to attention is would be the fact that there really is no rules for proposals whatsoever. The page Metroid4Ever linked to on MarioWiki clearly specifies the rules needed in order to create a TPP, and it is a general page where proposals on larger topics can be created. What my issue is is that since we have under ten users that edit weekly or daily, and participate in these types of discussions, a good deal of any proposals that we may propose here would likely be marked "No Quorum" on MarioWiki; you can simply bring up a problem on an admin's talk page or the article's talk page and most likely some sort of consensus will be reached, so a proposals page or a really concise list of rules on TPPs may not be necessary. I suggest that we implement this one rule: the proposer must take action if the proposal passes. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 11:50, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
:::::You're probably right on that "No Quorum" thing. In the case of the Trooper Pirate, it's been too long to have that notice template up. But for future cases, really simply making a talk page post would be enough. A lot of things on the wiki are changing though, like our category and image systems, the Help section and Quality sections will be receiving a makeover. Of course that's going to take some time along with the rest of this stuff :/ {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 15:38, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
::::::Yeah, I think that this is what's best for our current userbase. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 16:34, 25 July 2011 (UTC)
 
==Logbook Referencing==
Has anyone else noticed how inconsistent we are with our format for referencing logbook entries? We generally follow this pattern when referencing Lore entries:<nowiki> {{Cite|entry|[[Data Type]] "Entry name"|game the entry came from}}</nowiki>. This format is working fine currently, but there is really no pattern for Creature type entries. Check [[Blogg]], [[Grenchler]], and [[Grapple Guardian]] to see what I mean. I suggest going to this format for Creature logbook references:<nowiki> {{Cite|entry|[[Link to the Logbook the entry is from]] "Entry name(link if necessary)"|game the entry is from}}</nowiki>. This should be consistent with referencing lore entries, and more consistent generally. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 17:14, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
:By link to the Logbook the entry is from did you mean link to a page like [[Metroid Prime Logbook]] or actually linking to the Logbook subsection of the article if say the Grapple Guardian article referenced the Grenchler article? {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 17:42, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
::I meant the former, in order to be more consistent with the way we've been referencing lore. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 17:46, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
:::Hmm, I think there's a way I can make it so that you can link to lets say <nowiki>[[Metroid Prime 3: Corruption Logbook#Gandrayda]]</nowiki> without having a visible header in the page. In other words, linking to the actual logbook info on the Logbook page with no ugly header. And fixing each logbook entry should be quicker with my auto-ref placed inside the template ;) {{:User:Malake256/sig}} 17:57, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
::::That would be optimal... If we can pull it off in a consistent, easy to use fashion, then I'll be satisfied. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 18:07, 1 August 2011 (UTC)
 
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== Redundancy in references ==
 
I'm all for linking to the logbook pages, however things like "Metroid Prime Hunters Logbook "Sealing Gorea 01" (Metroid Prime Hunters)" seem a little redundant. I really don't see the need to state the game it's from twice. Anyone have any opinions on this matter? {{:User:Metroidking/sig}} 21:28, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 
:I see where you're coming from, but I think the game parameter (the parenthetical statement at the end of the reference) needs to stay. As for saying it's from the Logbook, well, that's just the source. We could technically say <nowiki>[[Metroid Prime Hunters Logbook|Logbook]] "Sealing Gorea 01" (Metroid Prime Hunters)</nowiki>, instead, and all the information would still be there. I'm not bothered either way. {{:User:Embyr_75/sig}} 21:43, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 
::I could see the link as piped; however, then we lose the fact that the Logbook is the most basic source (aside from the game itself, which gets a parameter all to itself in this case), and just citing it as "Logbook" loses the specificity of linking to the specific Logbook the entry originates from. I'd also like to note that I was meaning to try and talk through all of these and come up with the best solution, but I've been postponing it until I get the rest of the Missile Expansion locations up. {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 21:54, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 
:::I'm not sure what you mean about losing the specificity. If it's from the "Logbook" and the game it's from is "Metroid Prime," one can extrapolate that it's the Metroid Prime Logbook to which we are referring. Or is that not what you meant? {{:User:Embyr_75/sig}} 22:05, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 
::::I see what you mean, and I have no objections to piping the link from now on, or going around and changing the entries to have a piped link to the Logbook. I'd also like to bring to attention the fact that we can link to specific entries with {{t|anchor}}, and so if we're already stuck changing every entry on the face of the wiki, I think linking to the entry would be helpful. Also, as for Lore, there's a reason why the Lore is on a separate page; however, if we're piping the links already again, we might want to link to the specific Lore entry on the Lore pages (should be possible; I remember adding anchor to all those entries when I stuck them in tables), thus linking to every Logbook entry in existence specifically under the title "Logbook". I'm getting ahead of myself again... {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 22:19, 19 October 2011 (UTC)
 
:::::I'd also like to mention that whatever consensus we may reach here should be written into the Citation policy; I'd do it myself if I could, but someone needs to do it. Also, does anyone have a preference about whether to link to the game in the parentheses at the end of cite? {{User:Bop1996/sig}} 00:05, 20 October 2011 (UTC)
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